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Thursday, April 8, 2010

Sailor Moon Bootleg Gashapon + HGIF Figures!

I've had a ton of bootleg gashapon. Most of the ones on eBay are bootlegs. How can you tell a real gashapon? First of all, if it's $0.99 for a whole set, then it's probably not real. All the Set #1 figures have imprinted marks on them that say "© T.P.TA.T" followed by four dots in a diamond shape, followed by: "B. CHINA"

Bootlegs are either missing PART of this, or all of it. I have some bootlegs that have the four dots and the "CHINA" but no "© T.P.TA.T" and no "B." I have some bootlegs that have nothing at all. NONE of my bootlegs have ever had all the required markings!

The most noticeable things to look for are:
  • have you seen that SAME photo of that same set 100x on eBay? If so, it's probably a bootleg set
  • does it have THE WHOLE copyright? If not, it's surely a bootleg
  • Is it a KEYCHAIN!? Most of the world gashapon that are keychains are bootlegs (I have yet to see a licensed gashapon as a keychain)
  • deformed body parts (should the leg go straight but it curves? Should the arm be at one angle but it's at another? Yes, not all real gashapon are perfect but if it's WAY off then it's most likely a bootleg!)
  • the EYES. Real gashapon have nicely painted eyes and details that you won't find on the bootlegs, The bootleg eyes are poorly painted and smudgy.
  • Other paint issues! Gashapon are tiny so the painting on them can be spotty even if they are real. However, the bootlegs are noticeably worse sometimes missing paint on key elements of the outfit.
Of course, in most pictures you won't be able to see these kind of details. But don't be afraid to ASK sellers, "Does this figure have these markings?" If they are too busy to look or answer then they probably aren't worth buying from anyway :P  Please note, it IS possible for a bootleg to have all the markings. In that case, you will have to rely on the paint quality (which is sometimes spotty even on real figures) and the position of the limbs (which also can be a little wonky on real ones, unfortunately).

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Set #2 Gashapon have markings on the underside of a foot, back of collar and under the butt bows. (Big thanks to xdarkdestinyx for pointing out the ones I missed!) They are as follows:
Super Moon - 1R under foot, full copyright on collar and skirt
Chibimoon w/Luna - 2R under foot, © T.P.TA.T on back of collar and B. China on back of pigtail (no marking for Luna, can't find the four dots on her but they could be under her bow - mine is glued)
Pluto - 3R, full copyright on collar and under back bow
Uranus - 4R, full copyright on collar and under back bow
Neptune - 5R, full copyright on collar and under back bow
Saturn - 6R, full copyright on collar and under back bow

Set #3 Gashapon are marked as following:
Princess Serenity - full copyright on underside of stand
Sailor V - full copyright on sailor collar and under hair, also feet say 5L and 5R
Ami in Swimsuit - full copyright under towel
Miko Rei - full copyright under hair
Makoto with Bento - full copyright on the bottom side of the figure
Mistress 9 - full copyright on underside of figure

Set #4 Gashapon are marked as following:
Supermoon - full copyright on collar and skirt
Super Chibimoon w/Artemis - full copyright on collar and skirt on Chibimoon (no marking on Artemis)
Hotaru - full copyright on underside of stand
Minako in Swimsuit - full copyright on the bottom side of the legs
Makoto in Swimsuit - full copyright on underside of stand
Human Luna - full copyright on the bottom side of the figure

Set #5 Gashapon are marked as following:
Eternal Moon - full copyright on inside of legs
Usagi with Icecream - full copyright on underside of base
Uasgi in Swimsuit - full copyright on the underside of pigtails
Rei in swimsuit - full copyright under hair
Ami in Pajamas - full copyright on underside of base
Chibiusa/Hotaru Chibi Set - full copyright on underside of base

Set #1 and Set #5 are the most frequently bootlegged sets.
I have never seen a bootleg from Set #2, Set #3, or Set #4.

If you want to know more specific locations or details for markings on a particular figure, feel free to ask

APRIL 2014 Update! HGIF 20th Anniversary Set

They aren't Sailor Moon World, but the HGIF 20th Anniversary Gashapon do have markings to help you if you are suspicious of a bootleg. Here's some details, pics to come soon:
1) Each HGIF figure comes with a white, hexagonal stand.  The copyright info "© T · P · T" appears on the underside of the base, followed by a series of numbers on the next line, then"B. China" and the four dots in a diamond formation seen on the previous figures.
2) Each base has a number on the bottom that corresponds it to which sailor it belongs. 1 = Sailor Moon, 2 = Sailor Mercury, 3 = Sailor Mars, 4 = Sailor Jupiter, and 5 = Sailor Venus.
3) The stands have clear pegs that go up from the base and little clear cut out parts that attach to them to help support each character's legs. The pegs and support parts are imprinted with the number that corresponds to each sailor. 
4) Each figure has a bit that comes out the torso and inserts into the legs with the skirt between. The bit that sticks out of the torso is marked with the number for the sailor. It's a big hard to see on some of them, most obvious on Mercury. Some are on the front, and some on the back. Some of the legs are marked, too. I didn't see marking inside Mars' legs and Moon's might be there but it's a 1 so it's a little hard to discern from just lines in the mold.
5) Most parts that attache to the sailor will have a number on it. For example, Venus' left arm says "5L" on the part that inserts into the torso. Her right arm says "5R" on the part that inserts on the other side.
6) Some small parts like Moon's pigtails don't appear to be completely marked.
7) Mercury and Moon both have blue skirts so their skirts are marked with 2 and 1 respectively; the other sailors don't have markings under the skirt.

46 Comments:

At April 8, 2010 at 10:12 PM , Blogger chibi said...

Nice post! Very informative and interesting=D

 
At April 8, 2010 at 10:26 PM , Blogger Sakky said...

Apparently some of the keychains have all the markings so avoiding keychains seems like a good idea ^^;

 
At April 13, 2010 at 2:59 AM , Blogger trizzy_y said...

I came to say hi to a Sailor Moon friend!

 
At April 13, 2010 at 8:36 AM , Blogger Sakky said...

Thanks for coming by trizzy :3

 
At April 13, 2010 at 10:54 AM , Blogger Holly said...

I can't believe that doll sold for that much D: D: I hope the person who bought it just because they like the custom, not because they were tricked.. I know I'm being a little optimistic but :(

 
At April 13, 2010 at 9:28 PM , Blogger Sakky said...

What I don't understand is if that one person did a buy it now, why did it go from $160 to $250?

 
At April 14, 2010 at 5:07 AM , Blogger trizzy_y said...

Oh by the way, do you still have other sailor moon items for sale? :>

 
At April 14, 2010 at 8:28 AM , Blogger Sakky said...

The stuff I have for sale is here:
http://sakkysmoonbag.deviantart.com/journal/27205147/

:D

 
At April 17, 2010 at 1:12 PM , Anonymous Klhareo said...

Wow! Nice Posting! This helped me a lot! I just looket at my gashapons and they are not bootlegs ^^
keep writing! ^^

 
At August 2, 2010 at 5:10 PM , Blogger Heidi said...

This post really helped. I had won 2 auctions of Sailor Moon Gashapon sets. Five minutes later, I found your site. I immediately cancelled my order and got refunded. Now I have all but Mistress 9 in REAL Gashapon!
Thanks a million!
Heidi

 
At August 2, 2010 at 10:43 PM , Blogger Sakky said...

So glad it helped Heidi! I hope you find her <3

 
At January 30, 2011 at 9:24 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I stumbled onto your blog concerning real vs. fake Sailor Moon gashapon, and in doing so, I was able to verify that the ones I wanted to buy were real before I purchased them. However, I wanted to ask you about the markings you mentioned. Are the dots, © T.P.TA.T, and B.CHINA only on set 1, or do they appear on all the sets? I'm trying to find set 2, but I don't want fake ones, obviously.

 
At January 30, 2011 at 9:48 PM , Blogger Sakky said...

Glad the blog post was helpful! I need to go through all the figures and write a list of what their markings are. For Set 2 there are markings in the under side of their feet. They are as follows:
Super Moon - 1R
Chibimoon - 2R
Pluto - 3R
Uranus - 4R
Neptune - 5R
Saturn - 6R

I am 99.9% mine are real and I can't say I've ever seen a bootleg of this set (even though you think it would be a popular one?).

I hope that helps! :D

 
At February 7, 2011 at 2:44 PM , Anonymous xdarkdestinyx said...

For set 2, the rest of the trademark is actually located on the underside of the back bow.

And © T.P.TA.T, and B.CHINA, and 4 dots appear on every set.

 
At February 7, 2011 at 7:01 PM , Blogger Sakky said...

OMG Thanks xdarkdestinyx! I was looking EVERYWHERE for it xD

 
At February 9, 2011 at 1:57 AM , Anonymous kassi said...

wat about wicked lady? where are hers?

 
At February 9, 2011 at 1:58 AM , Anonymous kassi said...

sry i meant mistress 9

 
At February 9, 2011 at 8:33 AM , Blogger Sakky said...

Sorry kassi! I guess I forgot her! Her's is on the underside of the figure in her skirt layers, full copyright

 
At May 5, 2011 at 3:53 PM , Blogger Maria Chiara said...

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At May 5, 2011 at 4:01 PM , Blogger Maria Chiara said...

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At May 5, 2011 at 4:03 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi! Are the back bow of the outer removable? Sorry I'm not english ^//^

 
At May 5, 2011 at 7:26 PM , Blogger Sakky said...

Yes, their back bows come off. Unless they are glued, of course. :P

 
At May 6, 2011 at 1:33 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

My Sailor Saturn's back bow doesn't come off ò_ò... Is this a normal thing? T__T Or this mean that she is unofficial? T______T

 
At May 6, 2011 at 7:59 PM , Blogger Sakky said...

It might just be stuck? Mine looks like it comes out but it's also really in there! Didn't want to pull too hard. xD As far as I know there aren't bootlegs of that set.

 
At May 7, 2011 at 4:02 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mine is the same!... So it is a Sailor Saturn thing! :D Thank goodness! ^___^ Thank you!!

 
At May 7, 2011 at 10:31 AM , Blogger Sakky said...

Sure! Happy to help :3 Stubborn Saturn <3

 
At January 19, 2012 at 3:11 PM , Blogger Kaptin_Kawaii said...

i guess i have the Set #1, and i just discovered (but somewhat half-expected) they're bootlegs!
Actually, i'm a little surprised (in a good way), because i always see these funny, and the occasional freaky, SM bootlegs! And yes, i got these off of eBay.

I didn't see a single copyright on Eternal Moon, Maid Chibiusa or Maid Hotaru, or on the Maids' stands.(Usagi, Ami and Rei are in the basement.) But they're good-to-"outstanding" quality for bootlegs; the paint job isn't too sloppy or bad (though Eternal Moon may have the least-best paint job)especially on Chibiusa and Hotaru, the eyes are pretty detailed for a SM bootleg, and although the plastic may not have great posing on Usagi's leg (and maybe Rei), they stand up really good(especially Eternal Moon), and can stand up much better than some LEGIT figures I have from other series. And i got the SM figures for a good/low price! Like around 0.99 to 5.00 USD.

Sorry if this comment was too long, or not "apropriatte" to put here, and I know I didn't capitalize all my "i"s/"I"s...

 
At July 17, 2012 at 7:02 PM , Blogger TheSilverThistle said...

Hi! I think I have bootleg series one - but they all have the copyrite B. China T.P.TA. T. on them. But the painting job is really crappy on Black Ladys eyes, Venus's shoes and legs, and Jupiters skirt. And Mars's head snapped off while I was looking for the mark! That can't be quality right?

 
At July 18, 2012 at 6:40 AM , Blogger Sakky said...

Pictures would help a lot, but sometimes the paint jobs aren't that great on these. Do they have the four dots, too? Breaking isn't really a sign of a fake since they are kind of fragile if you push them too much. It would be good to know if they were updating that first series to have all the marks though. You can email me photos if you want? Sarah at SailorAstera dot com. :D

 
At August 2, 2012 at 10:59 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey there, Sakky! I just purchased a Black Lady gashapon. Where is the copyright info on her? Just want to make sure she's not bootleg. ;)
~Mystic Saturn

 
At August 2, 2012 at 11:00 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, Sakky! I recently purchased a Black Lady gashapon for my little sister, because she wanted it from the Tooth Fairy to complete our set. Where is the copyright info on her? Thanks so much!
~Mystic Saturn

 
At August 3, 2012 at 9:20 PM , Blogger Sakky said...

I checked Black Lady and her mark is "© T.P.TA.T" followed by four dots in a diamond shape, followed by: "B. CHINA" all on the underside of the figure in the skirt folds

 
At November 29, 2012 at 10:21 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you know if the PGSM bandai gashapon figures were bootlegged at all? And if they were, how to tell? Would it be the same as the world figures?

 
At November 29, 2012 at 5:47 PM , Blogger Sakky said...

I do know the PGSM keychains have bootleg sets but I'm not sure about the gashapon. My entire collection is packed right now so I can't check the info on them. I will try to remember to check when I unpack!

 
At August 11, 2013 at 2:43 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know this is an old post, but I thought I'd give it a try. Just purchased Chibiusa and Hotaru maids from set #5. Here's to hoping they're legit! And thanks to you I will know beyond a shadow of doubt! Thank you for posting this information. :)

 
At August 12, 2013 at 1:28 PM , Blogger Sakky said...

Best of luck Anon! :D

 
At August 12, 2013 at 3:12 PM , Blogger Tora ojou said...

Thanks, Sakky! It's me, the Anon...couldn't get my Google account to show up last time. XD Anyway...do you happen to know about the "sailor cute" line of figures? Like, *their* copyright marks? I believe I just received a legit one, but I'm just curious.

 
At August 12, 2013 at 7:14 PM , Blogger Sakky said...

These ones? http://sakkyssailormoontoys.deviantart.com/art/Cutie-Model-Sailor-Moon-203153540

 
At August 12, 2013 at 7:50 PM , Blogger Tora ojou said...

Oh! Sorry. Guess I should have given a picture...this is it here: http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t446/Toraojou/2013-08-12134633_zpsf5c93f4b.jpg :)

 
At August 12, 2013 at 10:17 PM , Blogger Sakky said...

Oh, those! I think all the ones I have are the Irwin versions and they have the copyright info on the back, usually on the head. Not sure about the Bandai ones though, sorry!

 
At August 12, 2013 at 10:50 PM , Blogger Tora ojou said...

Ah! Okay, thanks! :D Like this? http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t446/Toraojou/chibimoonfigure_zps6a0abdc2.jpg

 
At August 13, 2013 at 10:58 AM , Blogger Sakky said...

Yeah! That looks perfect :3

 
At August 19, 2013 at 11:35 PM , Blogger Tora ojou said...

I received the Maid Chibiusa I was speaking of just the other day AND SHE'S NOT BOOTLEGGED! I was so excited! She has a beautiful paint job and the correct markings! :D

 
At February 24, 2015 at 1:46 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi,
is it the same for gashapon magnets? Mine do have all the marks on them that you mentioned. I want to sell them and I am just checking if they are originals (bought them several years ago).

Thank you!

 
At February 24, 2015 at 5:22 PM , Blogger Sakky said...

Hi Anon!! I think most official merch has these kind of markings but I can't tell you for sure unless I look into it. Sorry!

 
At November 3, 2015 at 2:21 AM , Blogger Kelly.Crow said...

Hello!
My Set #5 Hotaru and Chibiusa look like they might be authentic, but there is no markings of the base. I'm guessing that means that they are definitely fake? Also my Set #5 Ami in pyjamas was bought second hand so it didn't come with a base. Is there any other way to tell if she is a fake or not? Looking at some pictures of her, some show her hand pointing down and others show it pointing up.

Sorry for the long message!

 

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